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Project for the web: Change licensing to allow for extensibility at a sensible price

Currently extending Project for the Web with the Power Platform requires a Project Plan P3/P5 subscription. This very expensive given that you already have to pay for a PowerApps subscription as well. This is especially drastic if you need to provide access for team members. Their numbers are normally much higher than the PMs.

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  • Craig knox commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I agree with this. Sadly, I think we all need to be driving our leaders to purchase different software. Microsoft doesn't understand they would make more money by having a product people would want to widely adopt in volume subscription dollars vs. having a small user based paying for combinations of licenses that get so costly a competing product is cheaper by more than 50%.

    One of my current projects is helping a business unit by this type of software, and we're trying to get approval to buy something else. Our Enterprise PMO bought something else.

    You shouldn't even need these things. Project should just work and do things out of the box with a simple and intuitive user experience without needing an IT background to get things done.

  • Jan commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    We are introducing a 'light' variant of our PM tool which will only use PowerBI for now and are hoping this will develop into something where you dont need to have E3 + P3 + PowerApps Plan 2, Power Automate Plan 2, Power Bi Pro (+Dynamics?) to normally use the functionalities..

  • Thomas Henkelmann commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Without the possibility to clearly communicate a stable (how many changes in the last 6 months?) and attractive (see cost for P3, PAP1, POwer BI Pro) licensing and cost structure to clients, the new platform won't fly. What a pity given the possibilities that we see!

  • Michael commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    In order to fully make use of Project for the web you need to set the working time for the people on projects. This is impossible to do without also having a Power Apps license. As far as I am aware there are no other products that Microsoft makes that require you to license another product in order to make use of them as designed.

    At a minimum Project for the web should include a Power Apps P1 license that allows you to use the Project and Resource hub.

  • James Boman commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Other O365 workloads like SharePoint Online, Dynamics, etc. come with the PowerApps and Flow "Seeded" capabilities for those workloads.

    i.e.
    - If you have SharePoint you can use PowerApps and Flow against SharePoint.
    - If you have Dynamics you can use PowerApps and Flow against Dynamics.

    Unfortunately Project doesn't follow this strategy, and requires both a high-level product SKU (P3) and standalone PowerApps licensing (per App or Per user - or in pre Oct 2019 terminology PowerApps P1 or P2). To use the Power BI content pack included with Project also requires additional licensing.

    This pricing appears extreme and needs to improve to make extensibility possible.

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